Peter Black NGNuk
Rod Smith NGNuk
Peter Ryde NGNuk
Mark Dalziel NGNuk
Andy May (CW)
Angus Flett (BT)
Phil Male ( Thus)
Neil McArthur (CPW)
Phil Kirby (Vodafone)
Stuart Shutt (Orange)
Ben Phillips (Sky / Easynet)
Robyn Durie ( T Mobile)
The NGNuk December Executive meeting focused entirely on the future of NGNuk
Firstly Rod Smith outlined the consensus that had been reached at the last Exec meeting. This was as follows:
Rod Smith asked whether any CPs disagreed with the summary of the consensus reached or had changed their view in the intervening period. All confirmed that they supported the consensus of continuing NGNuk for the next twelve months ( to 31.3.2009 ) and the summary as the appropriate basis for the activity of NGNuk. Stuart Shutt requested that additional focus be placed on how the above would be achieved during 2008. It was agreed that this should be covered in more detail by the Secretariat at the January 2008 Executive meeting.
Action 1 - 13/12/2007 - Secretariat to provide their views ( for discussion) at the January Exec on how the aims for 2008 outlined by the Exec will be achieved.
Following the agreement that NGNuk should continue in 2008 , the remainder of the meeting covered the implications of this decision.
The activities undertaken by NGNuk in 2008 will be driven by the following:
It was agreed that NGNuk shall conclude the existing priorities as quickly and cost effectively as possible. This will cover:
A brief discussion took place regarding how NGNuk might expand its activity to address international standards bodies where these were setting the agenda for services carried over the interconnect .
It was agreed that where a specific NGN implementation issue will have significant cross industry impact, this shall be raised at the Exec for agreement that member resources can be committed to investigation and resolution and subsequent agreement by the Exec.
An issue presented for discussion should be supported by an Executive brief circulated in advance. It was also agreed that where an issue is raised at the Exec, but resolution is agreed as being via some other agency, NGNuk will not ordinarily monitor progress or have any involvement unless the Executive sponsor feels that insufficient progress has been made
It was agreed that NGNuk should seek to develop industry policy for all key issues affecting NGN interconnection ( where consensus allows) except where agreeing a policy would be deemed anti competitive. NGN UK cannot set regulated policy. In such circumstances it shall recommend and suggest what the Exec feels is appropriate to Ofcom.
To develop the 2008 activity plan it was recommended that Exec members table those policy areas they wish to consider in 2008 at the January Exec.
Action 2 - 13/12/2007 - Exec members should table those initial policy areas they wish NGNuk to consider during 2008 at the January Exec ( By 24 January)
Action 3 - 13/12/2007 - Peter Ryde to circulate Neil McArthur's email regarding policy areas for consideration.
Where agreement cannot be reached on an area of policy the NGNuk Secretariat's role should be to consult with Ofcom and to consider whether their involvement is appropriate.
Regarding Ofcom , NGNuk's role should be to alert Ofcom ,on behalf of the Exec, to potential policy issues plus their urgency and implications. Similarly Ofcom should provide their views to NGNuk of the issues NGNuk should prioritise.
Action 4 - 13/12/2007 - Exec members to table those policy areas they believe Ofcom should have as a priority for development during 2008 ( By 24 January) for discussion at the January Executive
Membership
The Exec did not feel that the role of Participating Members is affected by what is under consideration however it was agreed that further discussion be deferred until after the January Exec
Exec Meetings
It was agreed that the frequency of meetings will need to be dependent upon level of activity. The Exec agreed with the Secretariat recommendation to change to bi-monthly meetings ( from Feb 2008) with a monthly report to cover the month between. An option of a conference call would be retained for this intervening month should this be deemed appropriate by the Exec.
Agenda
It was agreed that it should require a member to sponsor each agenda item and that these should be supported by an appropriate Exec briefing .The Agenda plus briefing material will be circulated at least one week in advance.
Decision making
A brief discussion on decision making took place, however there was no identifiable need to amend the existing position established under the constitution.
The role of the Secretariat in 2008 will be to:
Action 5 - 13/12/2007 - Secretariat to provide an outline budget for 2008 at the January Executive ( including a suggested process for obtaining additional funding where additional activity is requested by the Exec)
There were no AOB items raised
The next meeting will be 10.00 to 14.00 on 31st January at Riverside House.
Peter Ryde
NGNuk Office
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Action 1 - 27/09/2007 - The Secretariat to seek further clarification and quantification of the likely impact and costs resulting from the NICC decision to adopt RTCP HR for the monitoring of all calls. Following the Executives view (Sept minutes) that insufficient detail had been provided this has been flagged back to NICC. An update meeting was held with members of TSG ( 8th November ) where this was discussed in more detail. At the end of the call there was no resolution of the issue however it was felt inappropriate to continue to seek a response. | Secretariat Closed |
Action 2 - 27/09/2007 - Peter Ryde to define more clearly the issues involved and recommend the level of Programme Management that is appropriate. This was discussed with the Exec and the Secretariat recommendation that this it was outside of the scope of NGNuk activity was accepted by the Exec | Peter Ryde Closed |
Action 3 -27/09/2007 - Peter Ryde to meet with suitable representatives of UKCTA to discuss the NGNuk view regarding the approach to developing the legal element of the NGN interconnect contract from UKCTA work with Consult21 and also how to ensure Mobile Operators engagement in this process Meeting held 29th October. Report within Interconnect Framework section of agenda. | Peter Ryde Completed |
Action 5 - 27/09/2007 - Secretariat to develop scoping document for those commercial areas requiring agreed definitions. This to be reviewed with UKCTA . Following review to be represented to the Exec with a resource plan (and costs) Meeting arranged with UKCTA on 29th October. This has previously been discussed by the Executive (but omitted from the minutes) where is was agreed that whilst this was positive it was not felt to be an appropriate priority at this time | Secretariat Ongoing |
Action 6 - 27/09/2007 - The secretariat to request feedback from the Exec members on their thoughts regarding the key aims and attributes of the service principles. These to be collated by the secretariat and represented for discussion at the October Executive meeting. One response (Thus) to date. | Secretariat Ongoing |
Action 7 -27/09/2007 - Peter Ryde to meet with suitable representatives of NICC B2B work group to discuss the NGNuk view regarding the approach to developing the detailed billing processes and confirm that NICCB2B believe that they are the suitable owners of such activity. Meeting held early October . Report within Interconnect Framework section of agenda. | Peter Ryde Completed |
Action 8 - 27/09/2007 - The secretariat to request feedback from the Exec members on their thoughts regarding the key aims and attributes of the principles that need to be considered for Numbering and Addressing. These to be collated by the secretariat and represented for discussion at the October Executive meeting. Request sent to Exec, 2 responses. | Secretariat Ongoing |
Action 9 - 27/09/2007 - Peter Ryde to forward completed Data Requirements document to NICC Final version sent to NICC. | Peter Ryde Completed |
Action 10 - 27/09/2007 - Secretariat to follow up with NICC to obtain collective response from NICC regarding the Requirements submitted by NGNuk. A call took place between Peter Ryde (NGNuk) and Paul Rothbotham (NICC) on 24th October and a follow conference call held with TSG members . See NICC Update. | Secretariat Completed |
Action 1 - 25/10/2007 - Peter Ryde to circulate details of the dead line for a response to Gideon Sensensieb regarding the questions circulated to the CPs to support Ofcom's cost modelling work. | Peter Ryde Completed |
Action 2 - 25/10/2007 - Peter Ryde to inform the Exec of those CPs who had stated they intended to submit a response to the Straw man on Presence and Location | Peter Ryde Completed |
Action 3 - 25/10/2007 - Executive to provide comments on the draft paper regarding the future of NGNuk to the Secretariat by 16th November | Executive Completed |
Action 1 - 29/11/2007 -Summarise the debate on the Future of NGNuk ( in advance of the Exec minutes) and also to circulate a short paper well in advance of the December Exec ( 13th December) to allow further discussion at this meeting. | Peter Ryde Completed |
Action 2 - 29/11/2007 - Prepare documentation covering the background and approach to the charging work, the summarised responses of the members and recommendation for publication on the NGNuk web site. Exec sign off will be required prior to release. | Peter Ryde Ongoing |
Action 3 -29/11/2007- Update UKCTA on the Exec's views regarding NGNuk providing an agreed industry position for UKCTA. | Peter Ryde Completed |
Action 4 -29/11/2007- Update UKCTA on the Exec's views regarding the development of an Industry Heads of Agreement. | Peter Ryde |
Action 1 - 13/12/2007 - Secretariat to provide their views ( for discussion) at the January Exec on how the aims for 2008 outlined by the Exec will be achieved. | Secretariat |
Action 2 - 13/12/2007 - Exec members should table those initial policy areas they wish NGNuk to consider during 2008 at the January Exec | Exec By 24th Jan |
Action 3 - 13/12/2007 - Peter Ryde to circulate Neil McArthur's email regarding policy areas for consideration | Peter Ryde |
Action 4 - 13/12/2007 - Exec members to table those policy areas they believe Ofcom should have as a priority for development during 2008 for discussion at the January Executive | Ofcom By 24th Jan |
Action 5 - 13/12/2007 - Secretariat to provide an outline budget for 2008 at the January Executive ( including a suggested process for obtaining additional funding where additional activity is requested by the Exec) | Secretariat |